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The first trillion is always the hardest.
by /u/Onii___Chan____ | 101 comments | 2026-06-17T02:03:38+00:00 Central
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| /u/Goatknyght All you need to do is make a company Sell a 0.000001% share of that company for 15 dollars Now you are a bajilionare |
| /u/MrSteel1 You would still be poorer only $1.5T |
| /u/Fast-Score2439 No that is 1.5 billion. X = market cap 0.000001% of X = $15 X = 15/0.000001% X = 1.5 billion Put 3 more zeros friend |
| /u/Instance9279 I will hate it even harder ! |
| /u/Nanoro615 Redditors to lovers plotline... |
| /u/Wheredapassion Makes me want to add 4 more zeros and sell a share for $1.5 |
| /u/Economy_Professor637 The YouTuber Max Fosh did this once. Was the richest person in his country for a few minutes before getting an "ahahaha very funny and creative now take it down before you get arrested for fraud" |
| /u/mushychimpfoxtrot Crazy that Max was threatened with fraud but this SpaceX charade is allowed to go on |
| /u/AwesomeFrisbee Its because its only fraud if you are poor |
| /u/Entchenkrawatte Same for the GameStop stock situation a few years ago lol. Fraud if the reddit people do it, but fair game for the large hedge fonds |
| /u/Josey_whalez Ya in a sane world, the fact that there were more shares sold short than the entire float (IIRC) wasn't the issue, it was internet randos taking "colluding" to basically wipe out a hedge fund or two....who had colluded to short a struggling company out of existence. |
| /u/Beautiful_Hunt1095 That could only happen because it is somehow allowed to short more of a stock than exists. |
| /u/realqmaster Laws don't apply to the rich, duh |
| /u/BigBadDogLol They lobby the guys who write them so of course they use the loophole they had established. Duh der |
| /u/thankyouihateit I keep thinking about theranos and nikola, and i wonder how their promises were different from elons. I think they were charged with misleading/fraud because they attempted to substantiate their claims? While elon jusy says things? I honestly don't fully know how one is fine and the other isn't |
| /u/EverIce_UA SpaceX revenue totalled at ~$18 billion, and an aerospace company trading at such R/P ratio is just crazy. The reason for such a hype is, well, hype. Investors think it's a safe bet, others were sure that people will invest heavily and want to jump on this train to make some money. None of the fundamentials suggest such a price, the initial IPO evaluation of $135/share was already nonsensical, and was boosted further by hype. Also keep in mind that only 5% of the shares are traded publicly now, so the whole company is valued according to the price of only 5% of the company. The aforementioned youtuber and his experiment with selling a single share of an empty company for £50 is the exact same situation we have here. In conclusion, Musk's assets maybe valued at even $10 trillion, but I'd like to see him try to liquidate (sell for actual money) it for the full price (he won't be able to do so) |
| /u/The_Old_Chap But thats not the point. None of them will liquidate, thats not how they get the money. You just get a loan and put stocks as collateral. Having a trillion dollar company was never about the possibility of cashing out |
| /u/h3lium-balloon You know you have to make payments on those loans, at minimum the interest, right? Musk actually has cashed out about $40B over the last 5 years. I don't support any of this, but I think people have an oversimplified view of how all of it works. |
| /u/Important-Guitar8524 Its a meme stock but it's not fraud |
| /u/TomCormack It is. It made its name as a space related company, and was pretty succesful at it. Then suddenly hiddenly switched to AI, and made AI the legal coreof the IPO. They switched to AI after Musk forced SpaceX to acquire unprofitable Twitter and xAI. Both are just draining money from SpaceX' rocket and Sitelinks parts of the business. Also there is some shady stuff happening with the criterias for IPO. For example NASDAQ changed their own regulations specifically for SpaceX. And so many people will automatically buy SpaceX whether they want it or not. It is a big scam. Musk made a healthy niche company into a Frankenstein monster and then ordinary people will pay for Musk's and his friends' cash out. |
| /u/Spiritual-Spend8187 Got to privatise profits publicise loses. It was all about getting some one to hold the bag and this time they are forcing you to hold the bag. |
| /u/fang_xianfu None of that is actually hidden though, they were relatively transparent about this, it just turned out not to matter for the hypebeasts who are buying it. Also regarding Musk's "$1T revenue by 2030" statement recently - let's not forget that he is banned from making statements like this about Tesla due to a settlement he made with the SEC for violating their rules about disclosures - if he had been prosecuted instead of settling, one of the potential punishments was being permanently banned from being a CEO. |
| /u/grandramble I used to think the one thing Musk might actually prize higher more than money was space travel, but it turns out the robot who will tell you whatever you want to hear is even higher on the list |
| /u/NeitherShine7067 Nicely summed up. Paul Krugman had a detailed write up basically saying the same thing. https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/elon-musk-human-ponz i-scheme |
| /u/MrHyperion_ The rocket tech is very real but the market value is not. |
| /u/fang_xianfu The rocket division is also not profitable according to the prospectus, which is pretty mind blowing. The only division that makes money is starlink. |
| /u/PeachScary413 It's only fraud if your are poor 🤌 |
| /u/Adventurous-Bottle90 This is unironically what happened |
| /u/PintsOfGuinness_ Tell me where to send my 15 dollars so I can be friends with a bajillionaire |
| /u/Boosted_JP If Musk suddenly lost 99,9% of his current wealth, he would still be... a billionaire. |
| /u/Paryln No, what's a crazy fact is that if you earned a dollar a second, it would take you 32 years to make one billion dollars. A trillion is 1,000 times more. How much would you have to be making a second to make that amount in four days? |
| /u/AggressiveSpatula A little under 3 million per second by my math It's crazy to think he's working *that* much harder than the average American. What a true hero of the people. |
| /u/ChocolateHumunculous And he is currently worth 1.4 trillion, so it's way more than that, still! |
| /u/Jonthrei Monetary compensation hasn't been related to how hard you work since, well, ever. EDIT: If you think I'm defending that clown, you're dead wrong. I'm pointing out the system has always been arbitrary. |
| /u/sadmanwithabox 1000%. I'm out here doing hard, skilled labor that not everyone can do and im barely surviving. Part of that is me working for a shit company, but im doing my best to change that. Meanwhile I have friends who spend half their day on MMOs while "working from home", doing about 2-3 hours of actual work a day, and getting paid more than I do at the same time. |
| /u/Total_Mix9276 Skilled labor pays more, just need to cut out the 18 middle-men to make good money. |
| /u/LazerKittenz There are 345,600 seconds in 4 days. To make one trillion dollars in that time, you would need to be generating ~$2,893,518.52 per **second** |
| /u/JuggrnautFTW If you won a $5 million lottery every day for the next 525 years, you still wouldn't have as much as Musk. |
| /u/AnimeHairedMuthafuka How about this for an absurd comparison? In order to make a trillion dollars (in revenue, which obviously isn't her direct earnings as there are significant production costs to consider), Taylor Swift would have had to extend the Eras Tour for an additional 865 years and nine months, finishing up (assuming she hadn't stopped in December 2024) on September 9, 2890. |
| /u/Forward_Rope_5598 1 million seconds is a week and a half 1 billion seconds is over 30 years 1 trillion seconds is over 30 THOUSAND years It's really mind boggling numbers and people are somehow still defending it. |
| /u/DenizSaintJuke 16 minutes are ~a thousand seconds ~12 days are 1 million seconds ~32 years are 1 billion seconds ~32.000 years are ~trillion seconds If one second was a dollar, most people would own minutes, maybe hours. Millionaires would own weeks or even months. The richest person alive in 2000, Bill Gates at that point, would have owned nearly 2000 years (60 billion). The previous year 1999, he was esrimated at 90 billion (~2900 years, aka starting from 900 b.C. Roughly around that time, the ancient greeks thought their legendary heroes lived. Achilles, Hercules etc.) if you made 1$ a second), which I think would have made him the richest person in human history at that point. It took until 2018 that Jeff Bezos cracked that record with $112 bn (~3600 years, 1600 b.C. At that point our records get kind of spotty, that's ancient Egypt, the old Babylonian Empire was in its hayday). Elon Musk, less than 10 years later, clocks in with over 32.000 years. Thirty-two thousand years. That's kilometers deep glaciers covering the northern latitudes, while our human ancestors roam around hunting mammoths with stone tools. Mammoths would still be around for more than 20.000 years. Now you have a scale to grasp how goddamn absurd this is. Your bank balance compares to Elon Musk like a few minutes to a few hours compare to the entire time since the paleolitic in the middle of the last ice age. The other billionaires compare like the few minutes or hours to all the time since the first babylonian empire was established. And 90% of that lead was covered just in the past 10 years. This is not a sane state of the world. |
| /u/JosshhyJ Reminds me of the movie, In Time. Where time is currency instead of money, meaning the poor/average have to work to ensure their time doesn't hit zero (else they die) while the rich are basically immortal. |
| /u/AmeliaGigglesaurus 1 Trillion is like 32,000 years in secods... For reference, humans were still hunter/gatherers 32,000 years ago... |
| /u/rydan Here I am averaging $1 barely every 20 seconds. |
| /u/_winterFOSS You're doing pretty good at $180/hr, and you make $374,400/yr, placing you in the top 3% of US earners. |
| /u/grchelp2018 Here's another fact, you are closer in wealth to the second richest person in the world than the second richest person in the world is to Musk. |
| /u/TheDebateMatters If Musk suddenly lost 30% of his wealth, the American tax payer would bail out his business as he is too big to fail. |
| /u/round-earth-theory No he's not. The only company that would create a shock is SpaceX. Evening else could crash tomorrow and the world would move on. The Tesla supercharger network would be the most impactful to daily life. There's nothing else that we really need as a society from him and neither of those need the ridiculous sums listed. Yes I know, the investor class. The fucking morons and grifters that have created a situation where we trade a stock like crypto. Yes that'll suck but it's a better suck to let it crash and move on. We don't actually need him or the fake value. |
| /u/cross_the_threshold There's too much wealth chasing nothing of value, the "economy" is basically just wealthy people trying to figure out who holds the bag when the economy resets to a value based baseline. Like if Elon tried to sell SpaceX tomorrow no one would be lining up to pay 2.5 trillion or whatever it's "worth" at the time of this comment, it's not actual real value. They're all just buying the hype in the hopes they can profit until something fails. Usually you'd want an economy like this to invest in, y'know, actual businesses and startups trying to generate value or capital, but because nothing means anything anymore and god is dead they're all happy to throw hundreds of billions at the most laughably awful SEC filing in history because what the fuck else are they going to do with all that money. |
| /u/tardoos Do you really think "too big to fail" ever referred to actual use to society? It was always about investors. |
| /u/cuntmong what if he lost 99.9% of his blood |
| /u/DantifA He'd be a libertarian goth |
| /u/sweetdawg99 Only one way to find out |
| /u/FuriousWierdo00 https://giphy.com/gifs/QC7UQbxq89MnL9r6AN |
| /u/MiceAreTiny I don't know. But, I am more of an experimental scientist. |
| /u/melanthius He'd still have more than a billion blood cells |
| /u/iravu_R who needs a society when youre a trillionare? ive heard enough. 1 more trillion to musk |
| /u/Lostwhispers05 The difference between a trillion and a billion is about a trillion. |
| /u/AliceCode His net worth is approximately one trillion more than the next wealthiest person. |
| /u/Stranger-Tingzz Steps to becoming a trillionaire: - Stop buying $9 Starbucks coffees - Stop going out to eat - Find 1g of antimatter |
| /u/Dimensionalanxiety Important caveat, find 1g of antimatter AND effectively contain it enough to be safely sold. 1g of antimatter annihilating with matter has the energy yield of a small nuclear bomb. |
| /u/Eros_Incident_Denier Enough to blow up the Vatican? |
| /u/Long_Plan_1736 Wasn't that thr plot of a da Vinci code ? |
| /u/Percival_Dickenbutts [The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical, repetitive and repetitive.](https://onehundredpages.wordpress.com/2013/ 06/12/dont-make-fun-of-renowned-dan-brown/) |
| /u/manrata But also repetitive. |
| /u/FearoftheDomoKun Oh god thank you for reminding me of this, so good |
| /u/jlreyess That was the joke but it was Angels and Demons, close enough |
| /u/heyitscory Yeah, I assumed threatening people with my antimatter bomb was how we were getting the trillion dollars. |
| /u/Speartree https://giphy.com/gifs/BZlNhp9L5WINi |
| /u/YourPhrenologist Damn, I had already began searching under the bed, I'm pretty sure I had one of those laying around. |
| /u/Shadowlance23 Instructions unclear. This plan blew up in my face. |
| /u/Garchompisbestboi Create an IPO for your shitty government funded space company where you only release 5% of the company's shares onto the market. Wait for a bunch of self proclaimed "apes" to fight over that 5% and drive the share price up due to artificial scarcity and fear of missing out Claim you are a trillionaire because you kept 95% of the company to yourself and base the value of the shares you kept off of the value of the ones on the market. Congratulations, you're now a trillionaire. Just don't ever sell any of that leftover 95% or the share value will tank and you probably won't be a trillionaire anymore. |
| /u/RichardFeynman01100 Well that's only the first half of it. The next step of the plan is to dump it on the public and 401k through the Nasdaq. Nobody would buy it at the current price if it went actually public (since when is 5% an IPO anyway?). But passive index funds have to buy anything at the Nasdaq at the price it's at. And they changed the rules so it can be part of it after only 15 days, instead of the year it used to take. |
| /u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes Or in Elon's case, lie through your teeth and make unrealistic promises to investors to pump up your share price. |
| /u/cremaglitch and don't forget those damn lattes |
| /u/cremaglitch you have a good taste too |
| /u/MAUROKE01 https://giphy.com/gifs/djdyvnKHZEpwLAo4Qa |
| /u/Whhatsmyageagain And rotisserie chickens. Might have canceled "The Netflix" too. |
| /u/m3ss1a4 Tbf Netflix really dont deserve my money. All shit films. |
| /u/Inside-Example-7010 you gotta get up early in the morning. Thats the main difference. If you can wake up at 5am every day you are 90% of the way there to a trillion dollars. |
| /u/notmentallyillanymor You gotta do better than 5 am. I know because I get up at 12:01 am. It's the first minute of the day, making me the earliest worm. |
| /u/Illustrious-Water877 At that rate he's got the GDP of the observable universe sooner |
| /u/QTown2pt-o There is something much more shattering than inflation, however, and that is the mass of floating money whirling about the Earth in an orbital rondo. Money is now the only genuine artificial satellite. A pure artifact, it enjoys a truly astral mobility; and it is instantaneously convertible. Money has now found its proper place, a place far more wondrous than the stock exchange: the orbit in which it rises and sets like some artificial sun... Speculation is not surplus-value, it is a sort of ecstasy of value, utterly detached from production and its real conditions: a pure, empty form, the purged form of value operating on nothing but its own revolving motion, its own orbital circulation. The self-destabilization of Political Economy is thus what puts paid, in monstrous and somehow ironic fashion, to all possible alternatives. What possible riposte could there be to such extravagance, which effectively co-opts the energy of poker, of potlatch, of the 'accursed share', and in a way opens the door to Political Economy's aesthetic and delusional stage? This unexpected demise, this phase transition, this wild bull market, is fundamentally far more original than all our old political utopias. |
| /u/Lego_Nabii "Whole new theories of money were growing here like mushrooms: in the dark and based on bullshit." ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money |
| /u/Acceptable-Trainer15 Jeff Bezos ($250b) is now closer in wealth to the average slum dweller, than to Elon Musk. Let that sink in. |
| /u/i_dunt_no_hao_2_spel You could double Bezos' wealth and this would still be true. Larry Page currently has the second highest net worth in the world. You could add his and Bezos' net worth together, then double it, and the difference between Elon Musk's net worth and that number is about equal to Page's worth |
| /u/KJPicard24 It basically means nothing at this stage really, 1 trillion, 2, 50. It's just made up speculative valuations all aggregated together, there is no way he can ever really do anything materially different with it than Bezos or Page etc. The second he actually tries to 'realise' any of that trillion pile, it'll disintegrate under the weight of reality of actually cashing it in at that value. Someone said the other week, it's like a very official document or treaty declaring him the owner of a known asteroid speculated to be full of gold. He's now a multi-quadrillionaire, because that's what it's worth, right now, on paper. |
| /u/logicalconflict Do you see now how great the economy is doing and how inflation doesn't matter? Just look at how much money *we're* making! Trillions! We are so great again. |
| /u/pnkxz -German factory worker, 1923 |
| /u/Lasagna-Gaming I mean, wouldn't they technically be the first trillionaires? |
| /u/Koviera Only American dollars matter don't ya know /s |
| /u/SemajLu_The_crusader it's easy to make money when it ain't real |
| /u/uncertain_expert This SpaceX IPO has more in common with Musk releasing his own meme coin than a traditional share sale. He's released 4% of the total number of coins whilst retaining 40% himself. |
| /u/LoaKonran It's entirely based on some future hypothetical profit outcome that is already incompatible with present reality. None of it is real, but because people are allowing him to declare it real, he gets to act like it is and make it real. |
| /u/Rainhailsnow_storm He does believe we are living in a matrix. Maybe he knows something we don't. |
| /u/dansdata He does believe we are living in a matrix. When we clearly aren't. |
| /u/FluffySquirrell All that proves is that he's not in the first, perfect matrix, that humans apparently couldn't accept Maybe Musk betrayed his entire team to the machines and got re-inserted, and got to be a rich and famous asshole! |
| /u/der-maulaff And he choses to bei a real life griefer, which destroyes the fun for everyone else. |
| /u/Dweebler7724 It's my perspective that he probably wouldn't be a trillionaire if he wasn't also a POS and a loser |
| /u/inTsukiShinmatsu Compounding isn't this fast |
| /u/TheRedLions And stocks don't pay compound interest. It feels like people keep assuming this is money in his bank account |