/u/RazzSheri Wolves do this with each other too. They basically go:
"you can't be mad at/hurt me- look! I am just a silly
baby!" |
/u/DeathAngel_97 Its probably just a tactic to make it clear they don't
mean any harm. The wolf obviously isn't going to fight a
bear, and the bear also isn't going to risk injury
fighting the wolf if it doesn't have to. By not being
threatening, the bear while probably still wary isn't as
concerned and knows it doesn't want a fight. The wolf
probably came back for the scraps later. |
/u/RazzSheri It is- plus packs are familial units and work with the
elders protecting and caring for the young. So they
learn to ham that up when another wolf snaps at/corrects
them. There's a cute video that floats around on Reddit
from time to time, of a wolf chewing on a log and a
younger one wants the log and does the baby wiggle to
get him to give up and give her the log. |
/u/WistfulMelancholic Dogs are the same. It's complicated when they meet cats
who have no clue. The cat swatts the dogs and they're
like "heyyyy peaaace, loooove. Look! I want to play,
let's go" wiggling their tails and butts, bowing down
and the cats like "tf you dare to prepare your attack so
blatantly, here's another swatting" |
/u/Dx-Human_NOS This is such a perfect comment lol this is EXACTLY the
stage my dog and cat are at rn as they get to know each
other |
/u/Expensive_Heron_171 It took mine a few years but they are best friends now
and snuggle. I believe it's because I got my dog as a
puppy and my cats were already adults. And did not like
the usurper. |
/u/Daemon_Darkhole Sounds about right. You a cat? |
/u/ClairLestrange Part of the reason is conflicting body language - for
the dog wagging the tail is a sign of happiness and
play. For a cat it means aggression and imminent attack. |
/u/K-teki This is pretty much why there's the classic cat vs dog
stereotype, that and dog's prey drive |
/u/Matman161 "aww look at me I'm just a funny little guy, you
wouldn't mind giving me a bite?" |
/u/Kingsnake417 "Come on, fat ass! Not even a nibble??" |
/u/Talvinter He's trying to get food from the bear, not seduce her. |
/u/_thro_awa_ He's trying to get food from the bear, not seduce her.
That's what he WANTS you to think |
/u/Omwtfyu Cocaine Wolf-Bear incoming. |
/u/SortovaGoldfish I'm interested in this bedtime story, continue. |
/u/_thro_awa_ Sure, right after these ads. |
/u/Relative_Buffalo_165 Comes back from commercial and it's just the wolf and
bear smoking a cigarette. |
/u/JR_LikeOnTheTVshow George Washington had two dreams; that one day wolves
and bears would get along and that one day there would
be MMA fights on the WH lawn |
/u/TrueMead Too big, too small, just right. Goldicocks. |
/u/EddyConejo This technique apparently worked in ancient humans. |
/u/loserbmx It also worked about 10 minutes ago on me. |
/u/Inca_Kola_ maybe you are an ancient human |
/u/radedward76 10,000 years later, we'll see a dapperly dressed bear
walking his pet wolf |
/u/Electrical_Catch9231 Shit, you can see this in Portland right now. |
/u/Salute-Major-Echidna Also select areas of San Francisco |
/u/BeneficialStruggle42 💯 But did he end up getting any from the bear? If not
I offer to buy him a meal or even pay for a BARF
subscription, just send me his address. |
/u/Sensitive-Peak-3723 I think it would still work on current humans |
/u/chumpette I love like he's looking around, like: damn this is so
embarrassing, I hope my bros don't see me |
/u/redmixer1 Wolves are gigantic too I bet this one is like 150 lbs
hungry |
/u/ComfortableRelevant1 He's actually pretty damn big compared to that bear, I
expected a bigger size difference between them |
/u/bringbackfuturama Come on Mr. Frampton you're not going to eat all that
watermelon |
/u/vtosnaks This is how one approached humans like 30000 years ago
and now among his descendants are pugs and wieners. |
/u/Daveisahugecunt I like to think humans started bowing to each other
because they saw wolves doing it... |
/u/Highland-Ranger That's actually a super interesting proposition. |
/u/theXYZT More likely, it's because we're both mammals and get it
from the same ancestral source. |
/u/Horskr I don't think bowing is like an inherited instinctual
thing as much as a learned cultural thing. |
/u/Sea-Consequence7156 Many, many animals lower themselves and make themselves
smaller as a sign of deference |
/u/Daveisahugecunt Handshakes showing you didn't have a weapon. Salutes.
Cheers/clinking glasses to spill and mix drinks showing
they were safe.. culture is super neat |
/u/ladypbj ACTUALLY!! Handshakes are super interesting, we do it so
we can more easily smell the other person. Studies have
shown that most people after shaking hands will
subconsciously raise their hand near their face,
allowing them to smell the scent of the other person
that lingers on their hand. We do this to try and feel
the other person out, because humans actually have a lot
of scent based communication. You can actually smell
when someone is depressed, it just doesnt register like
a scent does, instead likely directly signalling to the
parts of the brain that interpret social signals. We are
just animals at the end of the day, and just like most
other mammals we sniff each other out. |
/u/fckspzfr The clinking glasses/cups thing is 100% a myth btw. lol |
/u/spreadbutt Well why the fuck we still doing it? |
/u/fckspzfr no one can force you to do it and i will defend your
right to refuse with my life |
/u/lastingmuse6996 When I took animal behavior in college we looked at
different body language things like that. The "play bow"
does exist across many mammal species. Showing one's
belly and vulnerable areas in general.
Human flirting follows these same trends. Expose the
inside of your wrist and neck in one motion by playing
with your hair. Expose your chest by straightening your
posture. I used it at a bar once to show someone and
like magic a girl came up in 30 seconds.
I bet the wolf intends to steal some of the food, but
wants the bear to know it's not going to attack it when
it runs up so that the bear is more passive about it...
But it's a bear and isn't going to be that nice. |
/u/AgentCirceLuna I've noticed I do it with people - I slouch to make
myself appear smaller. |
/u/PhiCloud I think it's both, kinda.
I don't think there's a bowing gene or anything, but I
do think bowing comes from a practice of showing
submission or vulnerability in a way that transcends
species. |
/u/lovelyxbabydoll Some theories suggest that we potentially gained such
high cognitive ability due to not needing as much energy
in the brain focused on vision, hearing and smell since
wolves started doing that part for us. So the person
joking a dapper bear walking a wolf might happen in a
few years (maybe a few tens of thousands would be more
accurate) could be on to something! 🎩 🐻 |
/u/Great_Scott7 Who doesn't like a good wiener? |
/u/thisisfreakinstupid I ❤️ tiny wieners |
/u/CountryRoads8 I literally have a pair of pug wiener mixes, and one
thinks she's still a wolf |
/u/keepcarmandhurryon Showed this to my dogs in an attempt to teach them about
their ancestors |
/u/Ok-Detective-5687 Thanks for my beagle! |
/u/SchillMcGuffin This is pretty fascinating. This wolf behavior probably
evolved from pups doing it to get food from elders, and
to some extent continuing to do it within the pack to
maintain social bonds. But sometimes they do it to other
predators too. And historically, when they did it with
humans, some of those humans responded favorably... and
the canine-human partnership was born. |
/u/OffaShortPier Let's just hope the bears don't domesticate wolves |
/u/PussiesUseSlashS Wolf & Bear pair were documented traveling, hunting, and
sharing food together for 10 days
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/kB14nSj
2pa |
/u/joecitizen79 So its already begun... |
/u/JerkGurk They haven't learned to fly yet right? RIGHT?! |
/u/AnimationOverlord Brought to you by Wolf x Crow ink |
/u/Teknekratos I seem to remember reading about instances of wolves
buddying up with bears, crows, and badgers (or mayyybe
wolverines)?
They truly the dog's friend-shaped ancestor... |
/u/Sunny_Hill_1 Wolf-raven pairs are apparently so ubiquitous they made
their way into Nordic mythology. |
/u/AnimationOverlord First Nation arts as well |
/u/bitteroldladybird I was told that the Cree word for raven literally
translates to wolf bird |
/u/watch4coconuts Ravens want to eat the dead animals they find, but they
can't tear through the skin. They know the wolves can.
So they hang with wolves and lead them to dead animals
that they find. Once the wolves open up the carcass and
eat their share, the ravens clean up the leftovers. |
/u/CritMemes Not just carcasses, ravens have been known to work
together with wolf packs by flying above fleeing animals
to guide the hunt to where the prey is located. Nature's
version of a surveillance copter gets to eat the remains
afterwards. |
/u/Perfect-System2504 wolf bear eagle, this the start of some cartoon right? |
/u/calilac ManBearPig is very real, and he most certainly exists.
I'm serial. |
/u/RealLavender *bear throws wolf at human* |
/u/Ole_St_John Hopefully they don't align themselves with tigers or
we're really fucked. |
/u/joecitizen79 Thankfully a different continent. Moose, though... |
/u/Cringe_Meister_ They do in Siberia or Northern Asia. Tiger, brown bear,
wolf and the much rarer Amur leopard live in the same
region |
/u/turn_for_do My first thought with this was "That's a Disney movie
waiting to happen" and the top comment in there was the
same thought. 😭 |
/u/CosyBeluga There kinda was a disney movie...Nikki Wild Dog of the
North. |
/u/hypnogoad Mine was that it was a group of friends playing Druid
builds in Diablo. |
/u/user-unknown-404 Wasn't there also a pair that had a raven or crow tag
alone too so it could pick on the leftovers? |
/u/Dallas2houston120 imagine a big ass Grizzly bear in a pack of 5 wolves.
The wolves chase the prey and tire it out and pin it in
a corner and the grizzly goes in for the kill. |
/u/OP_Scout_81 They'd be running the world in 8 days. Either that or
running a drug ring somewhere in Alaska. |
/u/Funtwo34 That sounds unbearable. |
/u/DarksideGustavo Too doggy for the bears |
/u/Lenient-Hug Aw c'mon, "hi-bear-nation" was right there! |
/u/SpaceCampDropOut Ladies... would you rather be alone in the woods with a
bear and its pet wolf or.... |
/u/DuragJeezy I'm writing a science fantasy story that takes place in
2150AD where Squirrels & Bears roam together and the
squirrels can be projectile shot from the bear. Don't
ask about what the orcas can do. |
/u/cylonrobot This sounds interesting. When is it coming out? |
/u/DuragJeezy We're 3 games deep & the webtoon is ongoing. It's called
Godtail. The Bearrels will be in our next game with
other mons you can catch & interact with |
/u/teamfupa Wait until they find cocaine again, have you seen that
documentary with Ice Cube's son? |
/u/Uncaring_Dispatcher I really wish they'd have named him Trey. |
/u/slickyeat Unique friendship between wolf and bear documented by
Finnish photographer |
/u/Wakkit1988 Sounds like we're Finnished. |
/u/AndreasDasos Crows are on their way there |
/u/DrPeterBlunt "Help! A bear is attacking me; with a pack of wolves!" |
/u/--Sovereign-- yeah it's definitely a juvenile behavior. one of the
hallmarks of domestication is retaining juvenile
characteristics and behavior into adulthood, makes sense
that wolves are just halfway there naturally. |
/u/definitive_solutions Oh so I'm not immature, I'm just happily domesticated,
thank you for that |
/u/K-teki Humans actually do show the same type of physical and
mental signs of domestication that animals do, like
decreased aggression and less robust bodies. |
/u/JimMarch We already know of examples of play behaviors between
dogs and bears:
https://youtu.be/JE-Nyt4Bmi8
We also know of occasional literal friendships between
wolves and bears:
https://youtu.be/eUXWyKrnIWQ
I've personally seen a ferret weighing about a pound
and a half run to dogs of up to 80lbs with the same
ferret "play bow" body language seen in dogs and lots of
other carnivores...and successfully get the dog to play
with them.
Oh, and we also have more than one documented case of a
coyote befriending a badger lol:
https://youtube.com/shorts/uSGIKsi9DOA
You can see the "play bow" body language again. Ferrets
and badgers are both mustelids so if ferrets have it,
odds are badgers can at least recognize it. |
/u/alwayssunnyinskyrim My dog has successfully used this play bow to get
donkeys to play with him from the other side of a fence
on multiple occasions |
/u/stilljustacatinacage I'm torn because on the one hand I'm picturing how brave
the first wolf must have been, going up to the tall
monkeys with sharp sticks to plead for food. Then on the
other hand it makes me sad imagining how hungry the poor
baby must have been to be so brave 😭 |
/u/Wes_Warhammer666 It makes me happy to think of it, because that little
bugger helped to eventually give me one of the greatest
loves I've ever known.
RiP Fishdog you magnificent beast. And thank you to the
brave and/or starving good boi who started the chain
that led to me getting her as my dog all these millennia
later. |
/u/PigabungaDude Thank you camp wolf! You were a good doggoe even if you
weren't a doggoe yet |
/u/three_crystals Thinking about Fishdog and all the wonderful little
puppers that came before her 💗 |
/u/FineScratch I like to call it the bargain so every time I'm talking
to my dog and he's looking at me to do something it's
like so is 'the bargain first struck by our ancestors so
shall it be fulfilled' |
/u/Eshneh If they were anything like my greedy little Huskies,
they are always hungry and will beg regardless or not if
they just ate |
/u/hillswalker87 you don't know when the next meal is coming...gotta get
it whenever. |
/u/Tomsboll I would guess said hunters was sitting on a carcass to
big to eat themselves and too much to carry it all back
to the camp. So when the wolves circled around them,
maybe doing this puppy dance, they threw some scraps to
them and the wolves dared to get closer and closer for
every toss. They would then follow the hunters and
repeat every time they made camp until the bond was
formed.
Many animals associate humans with food, not
necessarily that humans are the food but rather a source
of it. Birds today display this behaviour the most. |
/u/Legitimate-Tell2126 So basically, the first dog was just a wolf with
excellent begging skills. |
/u/AntikytheraMachines i watched something recently that said dogs were
domesticated wolves, but cats just figured out that
human granaries were pretty good places to hunt rodents.
so cats were not so much domesticated, but rather, they
just co-habitated with humans. |
/u/Preeng I'd like to know how close the domestication of wolves
was to the human development of "baby talk".
https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/dogs-respond-to-
baby-talk/ |
/u/__dying__ Okay is there evidence though that bears positively
respond to canine puppy behavior? |
/u/YoungLittlePanda The bastards always knew cuteness was out weakness. |
/u/Will_X_Intent I've heard there is interbreeding of wolf and dog going
on. |
/u/SchillMcGuffin That's their business. |